I Am Unqualified…

Posted: December 13, 2017 in Family, Marriage, Ministry, Pastoral

I Am Unqualified…ALSO

As one who served in Pastoral Ministry for almost 30 years, I can totally relate to this blog post below. And for my brothers out there that have, and are serving as Pastors, I am sure you can echo some (or most) of the same sentiment (though you may not be willing to admit it publicly!)

I am SO glad that God does not call the qualified, but qualifies the called!

Take a moment…get quiet Pastor, and read below…


I Am Unqualified…(by Perry Noble)

Back in July it was announced I have filed the paperwork to one day begin Second Chance Church.

Since that time there have been those in the online world who have been quite consistent in communicating to me I am “unqualified.”

I’ve intentionally not responded to that accusation in particular until now…and to that accusation I say…

Those who are calling me “unqualified” are absolutely correct. Taking a look at this Scripture I will point out why I feel unqualified…

I Timothy 3
Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach,

All so often in my life I was absolutely NOT above reproach
I have, on more than one occasion, gossiped about others.
There have been way too many “not so clean” jokes I’ve either told or laughed at.
There is no doubt I did not tell the truth at the DMV when they asked about my weight.
…faithful to his wife…

I really did think I was in the clear on this one until I remembered…
Jesus said if we even look at another woman lustfully – that we’ve committed adultery with her in our hearts…and on more than one occasion I’ve looked (whether in person or on a movie/television show).
So – obviously I failed here as well.

Not me – I literally became angry at a guy who was in front of me at the grocery store the other day…in the 10 items or less line…who had 17 items (yes, I counted!)
I flashed my brights the other night on the interstate at a car the other night (they were going SLOW in the left lane) – when they didn’t pull over I passed them on the right and gave them a dirty look!
When I saw that the person mentioned above was old…I did not feel compassion but rather said to myself, “those people should have to take a drivers test!”

The other day I went to lunch with a friend and was FULL…but when the waitress asked if we wanted dessert I said “yes” (telling myself I would only have a few bites) – after finishing the dessert I felt HORRIBLE!
Just a question here—if discipline and self control go hand in hand—then what about those in ministry that are overweight or obese?

Needless to say I have failed in this area in more ways than one!

Definitely dropped the ball here as I would much prefer to meet someone at a restaurant than have them at my house. I love my privacy – and you can’t sit around in your boxers and watch TV if other people are around (well – I guess you can – but it would be a bit weird!)
…able to teach…

I would like to think I was/am able to teach – but confession here: I’ve always felt “less than” when it comes to teaching…and know without a doubt there are way smarter people out there who can teach so much better than me.
As I was working on my messages this morning for Freedom Church in the U.K. this weekend I had an overwhelming sense of fear that I simply was not going to be able to clearly communicate what I feel needs to be communicated – and that someone else would be much better suited for the task.
3 not given to drunkenness

Uh…well…there’s that!
…not violent but gentle…

Recently in the airport I cut a guy off accidentally and he mumbled something under his breath to me – before I knew it I said out loud, “Did you say something?” He kept walking and I said louder – “No, seriously, do you have a problem?” (AND…I was on my way to consult with a church, definitely not my proudest moment.
And I haven’t punched anyone lately – but have DEFINITELY wanted to a few times—which…Jesus said if we are angry at someone in our hearts then we are guilty – so – definitely missed the mark here.
…not quarrelsome…

I love to argue way too much at times…especially over things that really matter…like college football, politics and the end times!!!
AND…sometimes I forget that other people are entitled to an opinion other than mine, so instead of listening to them I try to get them to agree with me–and when they don’t see things my way I become a tad bit upset.
…not a lover of money…

Guilty here – I was homeless for a while in high school – and I work really hard because I never want to go back to that place – however, I have been guilty at times of obsessing about how much I may make rather than the difference the Lord may want to use me to make.
…4 He must manage his own family well…

Definitely a failure here.
…and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect…

Charisse is an AWESOME young lady – but – she’s 10!!!
I am honestly not sure if she respects me at all–but my prayer is one day she will.
5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

Great question!
6 He must not be a recent convert

Definitely blew this one as I was on staff at a church less than a year after becoming a Christian!
…or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil…

So true – my early church staff position definitely made me self-righteous, prideful and arrogant.
WHICH is so dangerous – because the people who killed Jesus were not the tax collectors, prostitutes and sinners…but the group of people who went to Bible study every single day (Pharisees!)
7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

I think I have a good reputation with outsiders at this point…but it hasn’t always been this way—especially in college where I believe I drove more non-Christians away from Christ than I realized.
Titus 1

6 An elder must be blameless

Definitely not blameless – and – thanks to social media I’ve become aware of sins I’ve committed that I was completely unaware of!
…faithful to his wife…

Already covered this
…a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient…

Once again – this one is a win…but she’s 10…she’s never asked to do “dine & dash” on a Waffle House date, but it COULD happen one day!
7 Since an overseer manages God’s household, he must be blameless

Definitely would NOT call myself “blameless”
…—not overbearing…

Oh crap – when I am passionate about something I can definitely be overbearing.
…not quick-tempered…

Dang it!
…not given to drunkenness…

Uh…really…this again?
(Been sober for over 14 months by the way!)
…not violent…

Dealt with this already – reminder – not violent externally…but…definitely internally!
…not pursuing dishonest gain…

Think I’m good here – no drug deals, etc – BUT…I have bought a lottery ticket or two…that probably disqualifies me here!
And if the lottery ticket doesn’t–then I am sure the few hands of Black Jack I’ve played in Vegas does!
… 8 Rather, he must be hospitable…

A big fat no here (already covered!)
I even get angry when someone wants to have “a bite” of my food…or “a few” of my fries!
…one who loves what is good…

While I do love puppies, sunsets and the Clemson Tigers….
…there are those who would argue I love some things that are NOT good (like smoking a cigar) – so – definitely not doing THE BEST job here.
…who is self-controlled…

Have battled with self control all of my life (and – so have overweight/obese ministers!)


Don’t think anyone who knows me would refer to me as “holy!”
…and disciplined…

Can’t seem to give up sweets.
Seriously, a “Hot & Now” sign absolutely pulls me in!
…9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught…

Have definitely been taught things I have not put into practice
…so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine…

LOVE encouraging people (but often that is called just making people feel good—which has always confused me…am I supposed to make them feel bad?)
…and refute those who oppose it…

I probably don’t “refute” others that well as I’ve discovered that there is this gigantic log in my eye–which prevents me from getting the plank out of the eyes of others.
Like I said before – I absolutely do not dispute the fact that, according to the letter of the law laid down by Paul in this passage…I am unqualified.

(AND…I am POSITIVE there are those on Facebook who will be more than happy to fill in the gaps of the things I left out that point even more so to the fact I am unqualified…O God to be as awesome one day as those who attack others on social medial!)

However, if we are going by the letter of the law (and not the spirit of the law) – I honestly don’t anyone on the planet who is batting 1,000 on all of these qualities.

(It would seem Christians have became awesome and pointing out the sins of others in order to not have to deal with their own!)

As I’ve said before – I have never honestly felt qualified in my life, but was reminded recently in a sermon I listened to that God does not call the qualified, but qualifies the called.

I may be unqualified…

But I am also UN-wavering in the fact people who fall down need a Second Chance, and I’m called to start a church not for perfect people, but for those who want to get back up!

I am UN-willing to allow those who don’t know my story to try to tell me what my future should look like.

I am UN-able to give my life to anything other than the local church.

I am UN-phased by those who want me to quit.

I am UN-afraid of the future God has for me.

And I think it is UN-real that God still wants to used a messed up, busted and unqualified guy like me to take the Gospel to as many people as possible.



Just the other day I read this blog post….and all I could do was to say YES….YES!

If you are a pastor, and you affirm the thoughts below, leave a comment…

If you are a church member or attender, your thoughts are welcome too!

Read below…for I think that for some of you it will be eye opening!

The Myth of Free Time

A Lifeway Research poll conducted in 2009 revealed that almost 60% of pastors worked from 50 to 70 hours a week. About 78% of pastors worked anywhere from a minimum of 40 to 49 hours per week. One in ten worked 70 hours or more a week so the idea that the pastor doesn’t have a real job is contrary to the facts and pastors predominantly work more than most people who hold jobs in the secular fields. If you throw in bi-vocational pastors the average is more like 70 + hours per week with many approaching 85-90 hours a week. That is like having two full time jobs and when you include the necessity for squeezing in time with family, there is precious little time left in the week and by the way, they need sleep too. Most only sleep about six to seven hours a night. It is near the very bottom as far as pay is concerned for those holding a professional degree which should shatter the myth that pastors are in it for the money. One man once asked a pastor “What do you do all week?” as if he only preached sermons on Sunday. The myth that pastors have a very short work week is found to be just the opposite. Some actually believe that pastors have all week to work on their sermon but the truth is that sermon preparation takes about 15-18 hours per week, administrative duties take about ten to twelve hours per week, visitation (e.g. hospitals) and outreach can take about eight hours per week and it takes about eight to ten hours per week working on bulletins, newsletters, agendas, committee meetings, deacon meetings agendas, preparing for board and other meetings and creating agendas for them, dealing finances like banking, deposits, as well as making utility payments, and calendaring for future church events and activities. Add a few more hours for meetings with community leaders or representatives combined with responding to emails, prayer requests, and phone conversations and you have a very long week already and this is not close to a comprehensive list of a pastor’s duties.

We Don’t Get Depressed

Most pastors pour out their life and give out counseling to hundreds of people in their lifetimes (free of charge) and try to encourage and exhort others in the church when they often receive little or no appreciation themselves. It’s like they are constantly pouring themselves out like a drink offering with hardly anyone else filling them up. The idea that pastors are somehow more spiritual and are immune to feelings of discouragement, depression, and mental fatigue is totally misleading. The great majority of church members and those who live outside of the church walls believe that pastors are somehow above getting depression and suffering through long periods of sadness. The unreasonable expectations by most doesn’t help and if a pastor actually does seek help in the form of counseling, then this is seen as a weakness even though the American Medical Association said (in 2012) about 20% of the general populations suffers from clinical depression, although much of it is untreated and in the pastoral field, it is thought to be slightly higher. For some reason people seem to think it’s okay for them to offer multiple counseling sessions but the stigma is that they shouldn’t have to seek counseling themselves.

A No-Stress Job

Do I even need to write on this? Have you ever spoken with a pastor about whether they have a lot of stress or not? If you’re a pastor then I’m preaching to the choir but I can’t imagine a more stressful job than pastoring a church. Church membership’s expectations of the pastor put a heavy load on him and make him responsible for the church’s finances, growth, evangelism, outreach, maintenance, utilities, insurance, Sunday school curriculum, member’s conduct and so many other things. All of that weight is unfairly placed on one man’s shoulders and if something goes wrong, it’s entirely his fault. It is little wonder then that many pastors are suffering from depression and burn out and the average pastor stays at one church only about three-and-a-half to four years. We shouldn’t be surprised by what stress does because even Jesus needed time to get away and rest. They were constantly pressing in on Him and it had to wear on Him. Even though He was the Son of God, He was still in His humanity too. By the way, the size of the church, the number of cars in the parking lot and the amount of finances available are not true indicators of a church’s spiritual health but people point the finger at the pastor for that too, although God is no respecter of persons any more than He is a respecter of size.

We Know the Bible

Yes, we do know the Bible but sometimes I have to tell people “I don’t know” and they look surprised. I tend to say that where the Bible is silent, so must I be. Do pets go to heaven? Why does God allow babies to suffer and die and children to get cancer? When Job was suffering the loss of everything; his wealth, his children, and later, even his friends turned on him and blamed him for all of his suffering, Job never did get an answer from God as to the “Why.” Job just had to shut His mouth when God rebuked him for his self-righteous attitude but God was even angrier at Job’s friends for the way they treated and turned on Job. I suppose many people believe we have a greater insight into the secret or hidden will of God and I get asked frequently “What’s God’s will for me life?” but I cannot possibly tell them what God has planned for them because I can’t find an individual’s life-plan in the Bible. All I can tell them is that until they obey the revealed will of God (e.g. Rom 12:2; 1 Thess 4:3, 5:18) He is not likely to show them His secret or hidden will for their lives and besides, if it’s hidden, then it’s none of my business trying to guess what it is. It’s obviously hidden because that’s God’s business and not mine…or theirs.

My First Priority is the Church

Sorry, but this is totally wrong. My first heavenly priority is to God. I will answer to Him and not to the church membership but even further, the family is the first earthly ministry priority because if a man can’t even take care of his family, he has no business trying tend the flock of God (1 Tim 3; Titus 1). Most people think that they can just pick up the phone and call the pastor any time, day or night, and he’ll come running. Nope. He has a family. He needs to stick to his schedule but of course emergencies happen but that’s not what I’m talking about here. I had one of our church members call very late one night when my wife and daughter was in bed and I was getting ready to go to bed myself…but he just called to “chat.” I spent 20 minutes on the phone with him and when I was finished with the call, I was so wound up that I couldn’t sleep. It seems like he treats me like this: “Well the pastor doesn’t really have a real job” or “He can be flexible and doesn’t have a work schedule like me” and so many reason, why not just pick up the phone and call him any time you want.


Certainly these myths are only the tip of the iceberg. I cannot hope to give you a comprehensive listing of pastoral myths in one article, let alone in a whole book! I hope the congregation realizes just how much time and effort the pastor puts into his calling. We are no different from other people. We get stressed, depressed, worried, burned out, overworked, and are frequently underappreciated, but the thing a pastor must remember is that they are first and foremost accountable to God and not the membership or anyone else’s expectations. It is a very special calling and even though we are no better than anyone else, we do have a greater responsibility to God and that alone can keep a pastor up at night. If you do nothing else, at least pray for your pastor. He needs it desperately.

Pastor Jack Wellman Jack is an author and pastor at the Mulvane Brethren church in Mulvane, Kansas. You can find more writing from Jack atWhatChristianWanTtoKnow.com and FaithInTheNews.com

Leave your thoughts below in the comment section!

As I was cleaning out my email inbox the other day, I found this tucked within.  

If this resonates in your heart and mind also, send me a quick note in the comment section below…


I Am a Church Member Who Dreams Dreams: A Statement of Church Revitalization

And it will be in the last days, says God, that I will pour out My Spirit on all humanity; then your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. Acts 2:17, HCSB

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

I know that my church could use a new vision and new fire. I know that we have seen better days in our history. Sometimes it seems that we are going through the motions. I dream of a day when the vision is once again clear and the fire is intense.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

Sometimes we members hang on to those things we like instead of asking God what He wants. I dream of a day when it will not be about my programs, preferences, and desires. I dream of a day when I am giving all and asking for nothing.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

I know that no dream can become a dream unless we are people of prayer. Too often I give lip service to prayer. Too often I fail to pray for my pastor and my church. Too often I don’t really act like prayer matters. I dream of a day when prayer is powerful in our church.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

I dream that God will break our hearts for those in our community.  That we will not neglect the hurting, the homeless, the strugglers, and the stragglers. I dream of a day when we are so powerfully present in our community that people know us by name.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

Jesus came to seek and save those who are lost. I dream of a day when we do the same in our church. I dream of a day when our hearts are so broken for those who do not know Jesus Christ, that we cannot help but speak about Him. Indeed, I dream that we will share the gospel at home and to the ends of the earth.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

Churches are declining and dying all around us. Perhaps my church is one of those, or close to becoming one of those. I dream of a day when we will have no doubt in this church that we are vibrant and alive. Indeed I dream of a day when we come to this place excited and anticipating what God will do next.

I am a church member who dreams dreams.

But dreams cannot remain mere dreams. They must soon move to action. So I will continue to dream dreams. But I will also seek to be God’s instrument for those dreams. I will dream a dream that the old hymn is about me: “God send a revival, and let it begin in me.”

Let me know what you think about this in the comment section…


50 Ways To Say No…

Posted: August 11, 2014 in Ministry

I am not sure where or how I got this, but I thought it was a good one.  Enjoy practicing some of these and let me know which ones you like the best!

50 Ways to Say No

  1. No.
  2. Nope.
  3. No thanks, I won’t be able to make it.
  4. Not this time.
  5. No thanks, I have another commitment.
  6. Unfortunately, it’s not a good time.
  7. Sadly I have something else.
  8. Unfortunately not.
  9. I have something else. Sorry.
  10. Maybe another time.
  11. Sounds great, but I can’t commit.
  12. I’m booked into something else.
  13. I’m not able to make that time.
  14. Thanks, but no thanks.
  15. I’m not able to make it this week/month/year.
  16. I’ve got too much on my plate right now.
  17. I’m not taking on anything else right now.
  18. Bandwidth is low, so I won’t be able to make it work.
  19. I wish I could make it work.
  20. Not possible.
  21. I wish I were able to.
  22. If only I could!
  23. I’d love to — but can’t.
  24. Darn! Not able to fit it in.
  25. Rats! Would’ve loved to.
  26. I’m slammed.
  27. Perhaps next season when things clear up.
  28. I’m at the end of my rope right now so have to take a raincheck.
  29. I’ll need to bow out.
  30. I’m taking some time.
  31. Thanks for thinking of me, but I can’t.
  32. I’m in a season of NO.
  33. I’m not the girl for you on this one.
  34. I’m learning to limit my commitments.
  35. I’m not taking on new things.
  36. Another time might work.
  37. I’m not sure I’m the best for it.
  38. No thank you, but it sounds lovely.
  39. It sounds like you’re looking for something I’m not able to give right now.
  40. I believe I wouldn’t fit the bill, sorry.
  41. It’s not a good idea for me.
  42. Not now.
  43. I’m trying to cut back.
  44. I won’t be able to help.
  45. If only I had a clone!
  46. I’m not able to set aside the time needed.
  47. I won’t be able to dedicate the time I need to it.
  48. I’m head-down right now on a project, so won’t be able to.
  49. I wish there were two of me!
  50. I’m honored, but can’t.

Ok…which ones do you like the best…and if you could add one or more to this list, what would you add?

I recently saw this article about forgiveness and reconciliation.  I thought it was good enough to post here and encourage others to read it also.  It will take some time, but it will be worth it.

Praying this will make an impact in your life…married life, and ministry!



by Dr. Timothy Keller

Originally posted at http://bit.ly/16OUcA7 




The new human community that the Bible requires cuts across all cultures and temperaments. Put another way, it doesn’t fit any culture but challenges them all at some point. Christians from more individualistic cultures love the Bible’s emphasis on affirming one another and sharing hurts and problems—but hate the idea of accountability and discipline. Christians from more traditional communal cultures love the emphasis on accountability for morals and beliefs but often chafe at emphasis on racial reconciliation and being open about one’s personal hurts and financial needs.

But one could argue that the biblical teaching on forgiveness and reconciliation is so radical that there are no cultures or societies that are in accord with it. It may be here most of all that we see the truth of Bonhoeffer’s statement, “Our community with one another [in Christ] consists solely in what Christ has done to both of us. Christian brotherhood is a spiritual and not a human reality. In this it differs from all other communities.”1

In its most basic and simple form, this teaching is that Christians in community are to never give up on one another, never give up on a relationship, and never write off another believer. We must never tire of forgiving (and repenting!) and seeking to repair our relationships. Matthew 5:23–26 tells us we should go to someone if we know they have something against us. Matthew 18:15–20 says we should approach someone if we have something againstthem. In short, if any relationship has cooled off or has weakened in any way, it is always your move. It doesn’t matter “who started it:” God always holds you responsible to reach out to repair a tattered relationship. A Christian is responsible to begin the process of reconciliation, regardless of how the distance or the alienation began.


When speaking of forgiveness, Jesus uses the image of debts to describe the nature of sins (Matt. 6:12; 18:21–35). When someone seriously wrongs you, there is an absolutely unavoidable sense that the wrongdoer owes you. The wrong has incurred an obligation, a liability, a debt. Anyone who has been wronged feels a compulsion to make the other person pay down that debt. We do that by hurting them, yelling at them, making them feel bad in some way, or just waiting and watching and hoping that something bad happens to them. Only after we see them suffer in some commensurate way do we sense that the debt has been paid and the sense of obligation is gone. This sense of debt/liability and obligation is impossible to escape. Anyone who denies it exists has simply not been wronged or sinned against in any serious way.

What then is forgiveness? Forgiveness means giving up the right to seek repayment from the one who harmed you. But it must be recognized that forgiveness is a form of voluntary suffering. What does that mean?

Think about how monetary debts work. If a friend breaks my lamp, and if the lamp costs fifty dollars to replace, then the act of lamp-breaking incurs a debt of fifty dollars. If I let him pay for and replace the lamp, I get my lamp back and he’s out fifty dollars. But if I forgive him for what he did, the debt does not somehow vanish into thin air. When I forgive him, I absorb the cost and payment for the lamp: either I will pay the fifty dollars to replace it or I will lose the lighting in that room. To forgive is to cancel a debt by paying it or absorbing it yourself. Someone always pays every debt.

This is the case in all situations of wrongdoing, even when no money is involved. When you are sinned against, you lose some thing—perhaps happiness, reputation, peace of mind, a relationship, or an opportunity. There are two things to do about a sin. Imagine for example that someone has hurt your reputation. You can try to restore it by paying the other person back, voicing public criticisms and ruining his or her reputation. Or you can forgive the one who wronged you, refuse payback, and absorb the damage to your reputation. (You will have to restore it over time.)

In all cases when wrong is done there is a debt, and there is no way to deal with it without suffering: either you make the perpetrator suffer for it or you forgive and suffer for it yourself.

Forgiveness is always extremely costly. It is emotionally very expensive—it takes much blood, sweat, and tears. When you forgive, you pay the debt yourself in several ways.

First, you refuse to hurt the person directly; you refuse vengeance, payback, or the infliction of pain. Instead, you are as cordial as possible. When forgiving you must beware of subtle ways to try to exact payment while assuring yourself that you aren’t. Here are specific things to avoid:

  • making cutting remarks and dragging out past injuries repeatedly
  • being far more demanding and controlling with the person than you are with others, all because you feel deep down that they still owe you
  • punishing them with self-righteous “mercy” that is really a way to make them feel small and to justify yourself
  • avoiding them or being cold toward them

Second, you refuse to employ innuendo or “spin” or hint or gossip or direct slander to diminish those who have hurt you in the eyes of others. You don’t run them down under the guise of warning people about them or under the guise of seeking sympathy and support and sharing your hurt.

Third, when forgiving you refuse to indulge in ill-will in your heart. That is, don’t continually replay the tapes of the wrong in your imagination, in order to keep the sense of loss and hurt fresh so you can stay actively hostile toward the person and feel virtuous by contrast. Don’t vilify or demonize the offender in your imagination. Rather, recognize the common sinful humanity you share with him or her. Don’t root for them to fail, don’t hope for their pain. Instead, pray positively for their growth.

Forgiveness, then, is granted before it is felt. It is a promise to refrain from the three things above and pray for the perpetrator as you remind yourself of God’s grace to you. Though it is extremely difficult and painful (you are bearing the cost of the sin yourself!), forgiveness will deepen your character, free you to talk to and help the person, and lead to love and peace rather than bitterness.

Further, by bearing the cost of the sin, you are walking in the path of your Master (Matt. 18:21–35; Col. 3:13). It is typical for non-Christians today to say that the cross of Christ makes no sense. “Why did Jesus have to die? Why couldn’t God just forgive us?” Actually no one who has been deeply wronged “just forgives”! If someone wrongs you, there are only two options: (1) you make them suffer, or (2) you refuse revenge and forgive them and then you suffer. And if we can’t forgive without suffering, how much more must God suffer in order to forgive us? If we unavoidably sense the obligation and debt and injustice of sin in our soul, how much more does God know it? On the cross we see God forgiving us, and that was possible only if God suffered. On the cross God’s love satisfied his own justice by suffering, bearing the penalty for sin. There is never forgiveness without suffering, nails, thorns, sweat, blood. Never.


The experience of the gospel gives us the two prerequisites for a life of forgiveness: emotional humility and emotional wealth.

You can remain bitter toward someone only if you feel superior, if you are sure that you “would never do anything like that!” To remain unforgiving means you are unaware of your own sinfulness and need for forgiveness. When Paul says he is the worst among sinners (1 Tim. 1:15), he is not exaggerating. He is saying that he is as capable of sin as the worst criminals are. The gospel has equipped him with emotional humility.

At the same time, you can’t be gracious to someone if you are too needy and insecure. If you know God’s love and forgiveness, then there is a limit to how deeply another person can hurt you. He or she can’t touch your real identity, wealth, and significance. The more you rejoice in your own forgiveness, the quicker you will be to forgive others. You are rooted in emotional wealth.

Forgiveness founders because I exclude the enemy from the community of humans even as I exclude myself from the community of sinners. But no one can be in the presence of the God of the crucified Messiah for long without overcoming this double exclusion—without transposing the enemy from the sphere of monstrous inhumanity into the sphere of shared humanity and herself from the sphere of proud innocence into the sphere of common sinfulness. When one knows that the torturer will not eternally triumph over the victim, one is free to rediscover that person’s humanity and imitate God’s love for him. And when one knows that God’s love is greater than all sin, one is free to see oneself . . . and so rediscover one’s own sinfulness. 2

Jesus says, “If you do not forgive men their sins, your heavenly Father will not forgive your sins” (Matt. 6:15). This does not mean we can earn God’s forgiveness through our own forgiving but that we can disqualify ourselves from it. No heart that is truly repentant toward God could be unforgiving toward others. A lack of forgiveness toward others is the direct result of a lack of repentance toward God. And as we know, you must repent in order to be saved (Acts 2:38).


When God reveals his glory to Moses, he says he forgives wickedness yet “does not leave the guilty unpunished” (Exod. 34:6–7). Not until the coming of Jesus do we see how God can be both completely just and forgiving through his atonement (1 John 1:7–9). In the cross God satisfies both justice and love. God was so just and desirous to judge sin that Jesus had to die, but he was so loving and desirous of our salvation that Jesus was glad to die.

We too are commanded to forgive (“bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another,” Col 3:13–14) on the basis of Jesus’ atonement for our sins (“Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. . . . If you do not forgive men their sins, your heavenly Father will not forgive your sins,” Matt. 6:14–15; cf. Luke 6:37). But we are also required to forgive in a way that honors justice, just as God’s forgiveness does. “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him” (Luke 17:3). “Christians are called to abandon bitterness, to be forbearing, to have a forgiving stance even where the repentance of the offending party is conspicuous by its absence; on the other hand, their God-centered passion for justice, their concern for God’s glory, ensure that the awful odium of sin is not glossed over.”3


The gospel calls us, then, to keep an equal concern (a) to speak the truth and honor what is right, yet (b) to be endlessly forgiving as we do so and (c) to never give up on the goal of a reconciled, warm relationship.

First, God requires forgiveness whether or not the offender has repented and has asked for forgiveness. “And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him” (Mark 11:25). This does not say “forgive him if he repents” but rather “forgive him right there—as you are praying.”

Second, God requires speaking the truth. That is why Jesus tells his disciples in Luke 17:3 to “rebuke” the wrongdoer and “if he repents, forgive him.” Is Jesus saying that we can hold a grudge if the person doesn’t

repent? No, we must not read Luke 17 to contradict Mark 11. Jesus is calling us here both to practice inner forgiveness and to rebuke and correct. We must completely surrender the right to pay back or get even, yet at the same time we must never overlook injustice and must require serious wrongdoings to be redressed.

This is almost the very opposite of how we ordinarily operate. Ordinarily we do not seek justice on the outside (we don’t confront or call people to change and make restitution), but we stay hateful and bitter on the inside. The Bible calls us to turn this completely around. We are to deeply forgive on the inside so as to have no desire for vengeance, but then we are to speak openly about what has happened with a desire to help the person see what was done wrong.

In reality, inner forgiveness and outward correction work well together. Only if you have forgiven inside can you correct unabusively—without trying to make the person feel terrible. Only if you have forgiven already can your motive be to correct the person for God’s sake, for justice’s sake, for the community’s sake, and for the person’s sake. And only if you forgive on the inside will your words have any hope of changing the perpetrator’s heart. Otherwise your speech will be so filled with disdain and hostility that he or she will not listen to you.

Ultimately, to forgive on the inside and to rebuke/correct on the outside are not incompatible, because they are both acts of love. It is never loving to let a person just get away with sin. It is not loving to the perpetrator, who continues in the grip of the habit, nor to those who will be wronged in the future, nor to God, who is grieved. This is difficult, for the line is very thin between a moral outrage for God’s sake and a self-righteous outrage because of hurt pride. Still, to refuse to confront is not loving but just selfish.

Third, as we “speak the truth in love” (Eph. 4:15), we are to pursue justice gently and humbly, in order to redress wrongs and yet maintain or restore the relationship (Gal. 6:1–5). There is a great deal of tension between these three things! Almost always one is much more easily attained if you simply drop any concern for the other two. For

example, it is easy to “speak the truth” if you’ve given up on any desire to maintain a warm relationship. But if you want both, you will have to be extremely careful with how you speak the truth! Another example: it is possible to convince yourself that you have forgiven someone, but if afterward you still want nothing to do with them (you don’t pursue an ongoing relationship), then that is a sign that you spoke the truth without truly forgiving.

Of course it is possible that you do keep these three things together in your heart and mind but the other person simply cannot. There is no culture or personality type that holds these together. People tend to believe that if you are confronting me you don’t forgive or love me, or if you really loved me you wouldn’t be rebuking me. God recognizes that many people simply won’t let you pursue all these things together, and so tells us, “As far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone” (Rom. 12:18). That is, do your part and have as good and peaceful a relationship with people as they will let you have.


Jesus tells us that if we have been sinned against we may need to go and speak to the offender. “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him” (Luke 17:3). But when do we “rebuke”—every time anyone wrongs us? First Peter 4:8 says famously that “love covers over a multitude of sins,” and Proverbs 10:12 backs this up. This means we are not to be thin-skinned, and it would be wrong to bring up every matter every time we have been treated unjustly or insensitively. Still, passages like Matthew 18 and Luke 17 say there are some times in which we should make a complaint. When do we do so?

This is where Galatians 6 gives us guidance. “Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted” (6:1). We should give correction under two conditions.

First, we should correct when the sin is serious enough to cool off or rupture the relationship. Matthew 18:15 indicates that the purpose of a rebuke is to “win your brother over”—that is, to rescue the relationship. That is implied when Galatians 6:2 tells us that correcting someone is a way of “carrying each other’s burdens;” it is an expression of an interdependent relationship.

Second, we should correct when the sin against us is evidently part of a pattern of behavior that the other person is seriously stuck in. “If someone iscaught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him” (Gal. 6:1): the image is of being trapped in a pattern of behavior that will be harmful to the person and to others. In love this should be pointed out. So we rebuke for the person’s sake—to “restore him.” Our concern is his or her growth.

And how do we do it? “You who are spiritual should restore him gently” (Gal. 6:1). This is essential. If the motive of the correction is helping the other to grow, then we will be loving and gentle. Verses 2–3 indicate that we should do this very humbly. We are making ourselves servants by doing the correction.

Ultimately, any love that is afraid to confront the beloved is really not love but a selfish desire to be loved. Cowardice is always selfish, putting your own needs ahead of the needs of the other. A love that says, “I’ll do anything to keep him or her loving and approving of me!” is not real love at all. It is not loving the person; it is loving the love you get from the person. True love is willing to confront, even to “lose” the beloved in the short run if there is a chance to help him or her.

Nevertheless, it is clear that there are plenty of times we should not correct and not seek an apology even when one is owed. The stronger a Christian you are, the less sensitive and easily hurt you will be. When people “zing” you, snub you, ignore you, or let you down in some way, it should not immediately cool you to them. As a mature Christian, you immediately remember (a) times you did the same thing to others or (b) times that people who did this to you were later revealed to have a lot on their mind and heart. If you find that any wrongdoing immediately cools you to another and you want to insist on your right to an apology, do some self-examination regarding the level of your emotional humility and emotional wealth in Christ. Love should cover a multitude of sins (that is, most of them!) You should be able to warmly treat people who by rights owe you an apology but whom you haven’t corrected because the slights were rather minor, or the time isn’t right to speak about it, or you don’t know them well enough to be sure it is a major pattern in their life.


Here are some basics.

An unreconciled relationship is marked by avoidance, coldness, and irritability (that is, the same action performed by another person does not disturb you as much as it does when this person does it!) If you find yourself avoiding, being cold toward, or being very irritated with someone (or if you can tell that someone is cold or irritable toward you or avoiding you), then you probably have an unreconciled relationship.

On the other hand, “I forgive you” does not mean “I trust you.” Some people think they haven’t reconciled until they can completely trust the person who did the wrong. That is not the case. Forgiveness means a willingness to try to reestablish trust, but that reestablishment is always a process. The speed and degree of this restoration entail the re-creation of trust, and that takes time, depending on the nature and severity of the offenses involved. Until a person shows evidence of true change, we should not trust him or her. To immediately give one’s trust to a person with sinful habits could actually be enabling him to sin. Trust must be restored, and the speed at which this occurs depends on the behavior.

This also applies to the people who owe you an apology but whose sins have been “covered” (see above). A person who has let you down but whom you don’t correct has damaged your trust, albeit in minor ways. If he or she comes to apologize, it will restore the level of trust and respect you had before, but until that happens you can still have a civil and cordial relationship with them.

We can look at Matthew 5 and Matthew 18 as two different approaches: Matthew 5 lays out what you do when you believe you have wronged someone else, while Matthew 18 is what you do when you believe someone has wronged you. But it is also possible to also look at these passages as giving us two stages of the normal reconciliation process, because seldom does just one party bear all the blame for a frayed relationship. Almost always reconciliation involves both repenting and forgiving—both admitting your own wrong and pointing out the wrong of the other. If we put these two approaches together, we can create a practical outline like the one that follows.

Stage 1
Begin by confessing anything you may have done wrong (this might be called the “Matthew 5:24 phase”). Begin with yourself. Even if you believe that your own behavior is no more than 5 percent of the problem, start with your 5 percent! Look for what you have done wrong, and collect the criticism.

List whatever you think you have done wrong and ask the other person to add to the list of things you have done wrong or ways you have contributed to the breakdown in the relationship. Example: “I’m here because I don’t like what has happened to our relationship [or—if the term applies—our friendship]. It appears to me that there is a problem between us; am I wrong?” Then, “Here is what I believe I have contributed to the problem between us—where I’ve wronged you. . . . But where else have I wronged you or contributed to the relationship problem, in your estimation?”

If you are almost totally in the dark about what went wrong, you may have to simply offer to listen. Example: “It appears to me that there is trouble between us and I have offended you. Am I right? Please tell me specific ways I have wronged you. I am ready to listen—honest.”

Then listen well to the criticism you’ve invited. Seek to distill this criticism into something clear and specific. To do so too quickly may seem defensive, but eventually ask for as many specific examples as possible. If the other says, “You are bullying,” you need to find out what actual words or actions or tones of voice strike the other person as “bullying.”

Here is a practical checklist:

  • Pray silently, asking God to give you wisdom and allow you to sense his love for you.
  • Assume that God is speaking to you through this painful situation and is showing you ways you should be more careful or change.
  • Assume that God is speaking to you even through a very flawed person.
  • Beware of being defensive. Don’t explain yourself too quickly, even if you have a good answer or can show the person that he or she was mistaken. Be sure you don’t interrupt or keep the other from expressing frustration. Show sympathy even if you were misunderstood.
  • Always ask, “Is there anything else? I really want to know!” In a stressful situation it is natural for the other to hold back some complaints or concerns. Get them all out on the table, or you’ll have to do this again!
  • Make it safe to criticize you: support individual criticisms with “That must have been hard; I see why you were concerned.”
  • Look for needs in the critic that may underlie the criticism.
  • Now respond to the criticism, by doing either or both of the following:
    1. “Please, forgive me for ________.” This is your repentance, your confession of sin.
      • Admit your wrong without excuses and without blaming the circumstances. Even if the criticism included exaggerations, extract the real fault and confess it. Even if only 10 percent of the relationship problem is you, admit it.
      • Don’t just apologize; ask for forgiveness.
      • If you can think of a plan for changing your behavior, say, “Here is what I will do to make sure not do such a thing again in the future.” Ask if there is anything you can do to restore trust. If you really cannot see any validity in any of the criticism, ask whether you can get back to the person later, after checking with others.
      • Avoid overstatements—“How terrible I feel over what I’ve done!” Such confessions may be mainly a painful catharsis designed to relieve one of guilt feelings through a kind of atonement/punishment, or to get others to provide lots of sympathy.
      • On the other hand, avoid being deadpan, lighthearted, or even flip. Such confessions may aim to preserve pride, merely to fulfill a requirement, to force the other person to let you off the hook but without showing any real contrition or emotional regret at all.
      • Most of all, do not make a confession that is really an attack. “If I upset you, I am sorry” falls in this category. It means, “If you were a normal person, you would not have been upset by what I did.” Do not repent to the person of something that you are not going to repent to God for nor take concrete steps to change.
      • Real repentance has three aspects: confession to God, confession to the person wronged, and offering a concrete plan for change so as to avoid the sin in the future (see Luke 3:7–14).
    2. After you have repented, then turn to those issues that involve no sin on your part (as far as you can tell) and about which you have to say, “Please, accept my explanation for .”
      • “Here’s how I see it. Can you see my motive or meaning was very different from what you inferred?”
      • “Can you understand my point of view? Can you accept that I could have perceived this very differently and had the motives I am describing?”
      • “Is there some way, though we see this issue so differently, that we can avoid hurting each other like this again?”

Stage #2
Now (if necessary) address any ways that the other person has wronged you (“Matthew 18 phase”). If you have done all of the above, you may well find that this approach elicits a confession from the other without your having to ask for it! This is far and away the best way to get reconciliation.

However, if the other person is not forthcoming, begin with: “From my point of view, it looks as if you did ________. It affected me this way: ________. I think it would be far better for all concerned if instead you did this: ________. But my understanding may be inaccurate or distorted. Correct me if I am wrong. Could you explain what happened?” Be sure your list of things the other person has done is specific, not vague.

If the other person offers an apology, grant forgiveness—but avoid using the term unless forgiveness is asked for! Otherwise to say “I forgive you” may sound tremendously humiliating. Alternative ways to express forgiveness might be “Well, I won’t hold this against you,” “Let’s put that in the past now,” or “Think no more of it.”

Here are some general guidelines for this part of the process:

  • Maintain a loving and humble tone. Tone of voice is extremely important. Overly controlled, nice, and calm may sound patronizing and be infuriating. Don’t resort to flattery or fawning syrupiness or fall into abusive or angry tones.
  • Attack the problem, not the person. For example, don’t say, “You are so thoughtless”; rather, you might say, “You have forgotten this after making repeated promises that you would not.”
  • Suggest solutions and alternative courses of action or behavior. Make sure all criticism is specific and constructive. Never say, “Don’t do this” without saying, “Instead do this.”
  • In the heart of the discussion, you may discover some other underlying goal or need that the other person is trying to meet that could be met in more constructive ways.
  • Keep in mind differences in culture. A person from a different culture may consider your approach incredibly disrespectful and demeaning when you think you are being respectful.

What if the other person won’t be reconciled to you?
First, some thoughts on failed reconciliation with a non-Christian. Christians are commanded to seek peace and reconciliation with all people (Rom. 12:18; Heb. 12:14), not just Christians. However, non-Christians may not feel the same responsibility to live in reconciled relationships. In general, you will find that non-Christians will not feel compelled to respond with forgiveness and repentance.

If that occurs, you must take what you are given. Romans 12:18–21 provides guidelines on how to stay gracious, kind, open, and cordial to persons who are being standoffish.4

What if a Christian from your church is resisting reconciliation? Matthew 18 indicates that if a fellow believer will not reconcile after repeated intentional efforts on your part, you should go to stage B—getting some other Christian friends (preferably including someone who is respected by the other person) to go along with you to reconcile the relationship. If that does not work, at stage C you “tell it to the church” and ask the elders to speak to the person.

If the person with whom you are seeking reconciliation is a Christian but lives in another region or attends another church, you should take the Matthew 18:15–20 process as far as you can. However, if you are not members of the same church it may not be possible to go to the final step of “telling it to the church.” Again, you may have to take what you are given and deal as cordially and as graciously as possible with someone who is not reconciled to you.

More generally, learn to accept the apologies and repentances you get without demanding that people admit more than they honestly believe. If they repent nearly as extensively as you feel they should, then the relationship can be almost what it was before. If they only go halfway, then you are still better off, though the relationship is weakened because you don’t fully trust their wisdom and self-knowledge.

It is usually hardest to forgive someone who will not admit any wrong and who stays haughty. Internal forgiveness may be a longer process. Use all the spiritual resources we have in our faith:

  • Look at God’s commands to forgive—it is our obligation.
  • Remember God’s forgiveness of us. We have no right to be bitter.
  • Remember that God’s omniscience is necessary to be a just judge. We have insufficient knowledge to know what others deserve.
  • Remember that when we allow the evil to keep us in bondage through bitterness, we are being defeated by evil! Romans 12 tells us to “overcome” ordefeat evil with forgiveness.
  • Remember that we undermine the glory of the gospel in the world’s eyes when we fail to forgive.


When two people within the church are in conflict with each other, it can wreak a lot of havoc in the hearts and lives of the Christians around them who are not immediately involved in the dispute. The worst thing (but the common thing!) that happens is that rather than suspending judgment, praying, and encouraging the parties toward reconciliation, people take sides in the dispute in a very world-typical way. It is hard not to sympathize with the party you know best. It is also hard for that person not to “share” his or her hurt with you in a way that does not vilify the other party in the conflict.

As a result, we can have second- and third-order unreconciled relationships. That is, we feel alienated from people who are friends of the person our friend is alienated from! The problem with this is obvious—there is no direct way to heal such breaches. If someone is avoiding you because your friend is mad at his or her friend, there is no “wrong” that you can confess or repent for. It is a spiritually poisonous situation. The problem is not that you have sinned or have been sinned against, but you have heard a bad report about another Christian and you let it come into your own heart and take root as distrust and hostility.

What should we do? First, see what James says about passing along bad reports: “Humble yourselves before the Lord. Brothers, don’t slander or attack one another” (James 4:10–11). The verb slander simply means to “speak against” (kata-lalein). It is not necessarily a false report, just an “against-report”—one that undermines the listener’s respect and love for the person being spoken about. “As a north wind brings rain, so a sly tongue brings angry looks” (Prov. 25:23). James’s linking of slander with pride (4:10) shows that slander is not a humble evaluation of error or fault, which we must constantly be doing. Rather, the slandering person speaks as if he or she never would do the same thing himself. Nonslanderous evaluation is gentle and guarded, and it’s always evident that the speaker is aware of sharing the same frailty, humanity, and sinful nature with the one being criticized. It involves a profound awareness of one’s own sin. It is never “against-speaking.”

“Don’t grumble [literally, don’t groan and roll your eyes] against each other” (James 5:9). Here James refers to a kind of against-speaking that is less specific than a focused slander or attack. It is hinting with not only words but also body language—shaking one’s head, rolling eyes, and reinforcing an erosion of love and respect for someone else (“You know how they do things around here!”) But it accomplishes the same thing. It brings “angry looks;” it undermines love and respect.

Second, see what the book of Proverbs says about receiving bad reports: “He who covers over an offense promotes love, but whoever repeats the matter separates close friends.” (Prov. 17:9) The first thing to do when hearing or seeing something negative is to seek to “cover” the offense rather than speak about it to others. That is, rather than letting it in, you should seek to keep the matter from destroying your love and regard for a person. How?

  • Remember your own sinfulness. “All a man’s ways seem innocent to him, but motives are weighed by the LORD” (Prov. 16:2). Your motives are never as pure as you think they are. To know your sinfulness automatically keeps you from being too sure of your position and from speaking too strongly against people on the other side of a conflict. You realize that you may not be seeing things well.
  • Remember that there is always another side. “The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him” (Prov. 18:17). You never have all the facts. You are never in a position to have the whole picture, and therefore when you hear the first negative report, you should assume that you have far too little information to draw a conclusion.

What if the injustice seems too great or grievous for you to ignore? In Derek Kidner’s commentary on Proverbs 25:8–10, he writes that when we think someone has done wrong, we should remember that “one seldom knows the full facts, or interprets them perfectly (v. 8); and one’s motives in spreading a story are seldom as pure as one pretends (v. 10). To run to the law or to the neighbors is usually to run away from the duty of personal relationship—see Christ’s clinching comment in Matthew 18:15b.”5 In short, if you feel the problem is so great that it threatens to destroy your regard for the person, you must go to him or her personally before you go to anyone else.

When might this be necessary? Galatians 6:1 says we are to go to someone if they are “caught in a sin.” That means some pattern of negative behavior is involved. Don’t go the first time you see or hear of someone doing wrong. When you do go, remember the principles of gentleness and persistence from Galatians 6 and Matthew 18. The purpose is restoration of relationship.

If you hear a bad report about another Christian, you must either cover it with love or go to him or her directly before speaking of it to any others. The first thing to do is to simply suspend judgment. The second thing to do is “cover” it in love. The last thing to do is go and speak to the reported offender personally. What you should never do is withdraw from them or pass the negative report on to others.


Unreconciled relationships within the church are inevitable because the church is such a wonderful, supernaturally created community!

The reason there are so many exhortations in the New Testament for Christians to love other Christians is because . . . the church itself is not made up of natural “friends.” It is made up of natural enemies. What binds us together is not common education, common race, common income levels, common politics, common nationality, common accents, common jobs, or anything else of that sort [that bind most other groups of people together]. Christians come together not because they form a natural collocation, but because they have all been saved by Jesus Christ and owe him a common allegiance. In this light we are a band of natural enemies who love one another for Jesus’ sake. That is the only reason why John 13:34–35 makes sense when Jesus says: “A new command I give you–Love one another as I have loved you.” . . . Christian love will stand out and bear witness to Jesus because it is a display, for Jesus’ sake, of mutual love among social incompatibles.6

The reason we will have to hold ourselves accountable for our relationships is that mutual love in Christian community is super-hard. Jesus has brought incompatibles together! But the reason we will want to hold ourselves accountable for our relationships is that mutual love in Christian community is one of the main ways the world will see who Jesus is. So we must never give up on each other. So we must pursue each other in love.

Copyright © 2005 by Timothy Keller, © 2009 by Redeemer City to City. This article first appeared in The Gospel and Life conferences of 2004 and 2005. Used by permission.

Originally posted at http://bit.ly/16OUcA7 

1. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Life Together (New York: Harper, 1954), 23, 25–26.
2. Miroslav Volf, Exclusion and Embrace (Nashville: Abingdon, 1996), p. 124.
3. D. A. Carson, Love in Hard Places (Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway, 2002), p. 83.
4. A great book on relating to people who are cold or even hostile is Bold Love by Dan Allender and Tremper Longman (Colorado Springs: NavPress, 1992). Don’t miss it.
5. Derek Kidner, Proverbs: An Introduction and Commentary, Tyndale Old Testament Commentary Series (Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press, 1981), p. 157.
6. Carson, p. 61.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this article!  Leave a comment below!

As I pondered over Sunday’s message on Leaving a Legacy, I was humbled by the response of our people here at Royersford Bible Fellowship.  You are clearly a church that wants to live for something more than yourselves!  You want to live for God and in that, leave a legacy of pointing people toward Christ!  

I came upon this blog post and thought that I would share it with you all…so get a cup of coffee, sit back, and allow again, the Holy Spirit of God to speak to you…and also confirm in you what He started within you this past Sunday morning!

I would love to hear your thoughts on how God is working in you to leave a legacy of pointing others to Him!  Please consider leaving your thoughts below in the comment section…

Pastor Drew

Leaving A Legacy Of Glory

 by Bill Lawrence

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For a long time I did not think about leaving a legacy. It seemed arrogant to me that I should leave a legacy. What do I claim as my legacy? A building maybe? We did erect a building for the church that we started and pastored, but I didn’t build that building—we built that building. The elders and staff worked together to communicate the need, the people responded with time and money, but the Lord built the building. Since I left, the church erected two additional buildings totally without me. Others may claim a building as their legacy, but I don’t think I can.

Could I claim an institution, maybe that church my wife and I started with three other couples? How can that be my legacy since we couldn’t have done it without the other three couples and all those who stepped forward with us? It is as amazing now as it was then to think of the many people who committed to what they could not see to do what they could not do and accomplish the impossible. Once again I didn’t start that church; we started it. In fact, apart from the enabling power of the Holy Spirit and the indwelling presence of Christ, there is nothing that Ihave done.

I have always thought that the greatest legacy I could leave is to be obedient. However, I’ve also come to realize that if I focus my obedience in a specific way I can leave a legacy of glory. I learned that from reading our Lord’s prayer for the restoration of His glory in John 17. Consider His words when He said, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you (Jn. 17:1).” Significant, isn’t it, that even the Son did not seek glory for Himself, but to glorify the Father? Why should the Father glorify the Son? Because as He said, “I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began (Jn. 17:4-5).” Jesus glorified the Father by obeying Him, yet He did more than just obey; He focused His obedience as He declared when He stated, “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world (Jn. 17:6).” The legacy of our Lord’s obedience was the men He left behind through the life He led, and that was a legacy of glory for Him because that obedience qualified Him to have His glory restored after a lifetime of humiliation.

Now that’s a legacy worth living for. Not a building or an institution, but living men and women who carry on His mission for His glory. I cannot do this by myself, but I can focus my obedience so the aroma of Christ impacts others and they choose to live for Him. There is no glory for me, of course, but there is great glory for Him because only He can do this through me. You see, Jesus is still revealing the Father to those whom the Father has given Him, now through us, and we can leave a legacy of glory as we influence others to live for Him. It is not my glory, but His glory reflected through me; it is not my legacy, but His legacy continuing through me. There is no greater legacy than this.

How can I leave this legacy? By living the same way Christ lived through His presence in me. To do this I want to observe seven ways that Jesus the man lived. In focusing on His humanity, I have no intention of turning from His deity. Jesus is God—not was or will be, but is. There is never a time when Jesus is not God, and He had both God’s nature and human nature unmixed within Him during His incarnation. Yet He was man, and I am concerned that we sometimes are afraid to focus on Jesus the man for fear that we will somehow denigrate His deity. The New Testament has no such fears as it describes Him in very human terms even as Peter did when he called Him “a man accredited by God . . . (Acts 2:21),” on the Day of Pentecost. I want us to see seven realities about this man that resulted in His legacy of glory and that can give us a legacy of glory as well when we depend on Him to live the same way.

1. Jesus Was A Humble Man.

The events of His birth demonstrate His humanity and His humility. His birth was of a questionable nature, and these questions followed Him all His life. Look at the blatant assertion that was made in John 8:41: “We were not born of fornication . . .” Those who refused to believe in Him regarded the holy Son of God as the fruit of evil. No one was as holy as He in all of history, yet those who rejected Him treated Him as unholy.

He was born subject to the whims of the emperor of Rome who decreed that all had to return to their roots for a census so he could raise the taxes he wanted to rule as he desired. Thus it was that Joseph and Mary had to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem right when it was time for Jesus to be born. He who was sovereign over the emperor became subject to the emperor as He stepped down from His throne to enter humanity as a weak, frail, dependent baby wrapped in swaddling clothes and lying in a manger

As if that is not enough, Herod made an attempt on His life, and He had to be protected from this rapacious and evil king. The Lord of lords was forced to run for His life before He could even walk. How could He be more humiliated?

It was this humility—a humility that continued all His life—that gave Him the hearing He gained from the men whom He called to follow Him. So it must be with us if we would leave a legacy of glory; we too must step away from our puny glory and thoughts of our legacy, and turn to Him in humility for His resources and enablement through us and His legacy for us.

2. Jesus Was A Dependent Man.

Jesus did nothing on His own; He acted only as the Father desired and enabled (John 5:19-30). As He moved into His ministry as Messiah, the Spirit’s public identification with Him at His baptism demonstrated that all He did was through the fullness and power of the Holy Spirit. ” The descent of the Holy Spirit empowered the Son, the Messiah, for His ministry among people.”2 Luke 4:1– 14 makes this abundantly clear. As Jesus faced the greater demands of His messianic ministry, He also received the enabling power of the Holy Spirit for all He did and became the model for all we do.

Jesus is the prototype, the pattern, and master copy for how we live.3 We live the way He lived, dependent on the power of the Holy Spirit, which enables us to leave the same legacy of glory as He. Though we are radically different from Him—He, the Son of God, we the children of God—we can only live in the fullness and power of the Holy Spirit just as He lived.

3. Jesus Was A Proven Man.

Immediately following His baptism the Holy Spirit drove (Mk. 1:12) Him into the wilderness to be tempted by the evil one. This temptation was no ordinary event for Jesus, but a time of suffering as He wrestled with sin and evil in a deeply personal way (Heb. 2:17-18) and so entered into the same struggle we experience. His suffering was so great that following His temptation angels came and ministered to Him by assisting and refreshing Him.

Just as Jesus fulfilled all righteousness (Mt. 3:15) and so proved He to be our worthy high priest, so we prove ourselves to those whom we influence by suffering and overcoming the temptation to evil through the Holy Spirit. We can only leave a legacy of glory if we turn from sin’s allure to Christ’s humility, and that decision could mean suffering for us.

4. Jesus Was A Focused Man.

Throughout the course of His ministry Jesus maintained a two-fold focus on redemption and communication. Jesus often spoke of His hour, the hour of His crucifixion and our redemption, but what impact would that redemption have had without discipled leaders to communicate what the cross meant? This was why Jesus focused so totally on twelve men, one of whom was a betrayer. He set His face as a flint to go to Jerusalem and the cross, but He was equally determined to prepare His men for the Great Commission.

So we must be equally focused, not on success or recognition or power or control but on leaving a legacy of glory for Jesus in the lives of those we prepare to communicate God’s ways to the next generation.

5. Jesus Was A Patient Man.

He was patient with His men even when they brought Him to the edge of frustration. Remember when He warned His men about the yeast of the Pharisees and the Herodians, and they thought He was concerned that they had only one loaf of bread in the boat with them (Mk. 8:14-21)? Jesus reminded them of the feeding of the five thousand and the four thousand. What patience! And with such foolish fellows.

Once again, following one of the greatest moments of His ministry, the only time when He was able to show His ultimate glory at the Transfiguration, He came back to His men and found them in a debate over casting out demons. They had devastated the faith of the father who brought his son to be delivered from a demon. Jesus said to them, “O unbelieving and perverse generation, how long shall I stay with you (Mt. 17:18)?” He answered His own question by staying with them and loving them to the very end. He showed amazing patience with men who had no right to His endurance.

Making the Father known to blind and deaf men and women who are often more interested in their own glory than His is a frustrating task, especially when we are such people ourselves. We may not think of patience as primary in leaving a legacy of glory, but it is only as we persevere in serving such unprofitable servants as ourselves that we see that glory grow.

6. Jesus Was An Obedient Man.

Jesus said yes when everything in Him wanted to say no. Remember the scene in Gethsemane when Jesus called out with a loud voice and tears to the one who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverent submission. It was then that He learned obedience through suffering and became the source of our eternal salvation (Heb. 5:7-9). He wanted to give us redemption, but if there were any way other than the cross, He would have taken that way. Yet He did His Father’s will.

How often do we go to God and remind Him that all things are possible with Him and how often do we insist on our way, the way of freedom from suffering? What we don’t know is that a legacy of glory can only come through obedience, and obedience always leads to the cross because we can only accomplish obedience through the cross. If we want to leave a Jesus kind of legacy, we can only do it the Jesus way: by saying yes when we want to say no—yes to the cross and no to self.

7. Jesus Was A Faithful Man.

That’s what Jesus was saying in John 17:1-12: “I did your will. In other words, “I have been faithful, Father, to all you wanted me to do.” This is why He could ask to receive His glory back, the very glory He had before the world was. Think of how much that glory meant to Him and how much His self-humiliation cost Him as He entered into a state that was not natural for Him as God. He stepped into a world scarred by sin, darkened by the destructive power of evil, and became subordinate to His own creatures. He who made everything, who had the power to command legions of angels, chose to limit His power and subject Himself to the very ones He came to deliver. That is how He could claim His legacy of glory.

Jesus shows us how to leave a true legacy, a legacy of glory, His glory, not ours. If, by His grace, we become humble, dependent, proven, focused, persevering, obedient, and faithful men and women who focus our lives on making the Father known to those He gives to us, we will leave a legacy of glory. Not our glory, but His, the glory He wants to give to the Father through us.

What greater legacy could we leave?

The legacy we leave is the life we lead, the life of Christ in us and through us passed on to others in the power of the Holy Spirit.


i James Kouzes and Barry Posner, A Leader’s Legacy, San Francisco, Jossey-Bass, 2006, p. 177.

2 Walvoord, J. F., Zuck, R. B., & Dallas Theological Seminary. (1983-c1985). The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures (2:25). Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, Logos edition.

3 Sinclair B. Ferguson John Owen on the Spirit in the Life of Christ,”, “reprinted from the Banner of Truth Magazine, Issues 293-294, Feb.-March 1988, Internet citation.

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Try some of these on your wife!

Posted: June 18, 2013 in Marriage

Ok, Men…

Want to have some fun with your wife?  Recently have you had some fun and tried to “pick her up” by using some “lines”?

No?  Why not? 

Have some fun, watch the video below, memorize a line or two, and spring them on your wife sometime!  I am sure it will make for some good laughter!

Let me know below in the comment section which ones you like the best!